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If i see some spam i always use the report function

Just a notice.Station drivers does not like many simoltenous connections from the same IP.I sometimes get timeouts.

I suppose the only alternative is 3rd party driver site.For example i use www.station-drivers.com and in your case http://www.station-drivers.com/page/realtek.htm but there are others.The obvious drawback is that they are unoficcial and that it takes time for newest versions to appear on their site. The upside tho is that it can be automated with Ketarin and it's easier to download from there.

Realtek's download site is a major pain in the a**. Firstly the navigation is horrible. Secondly it's slow as a snail. Third determening correct download address is difficult at best. For example currently my dowload came from: ftp://WebUser:pGL7E6v@202.134.71.21/cn/nic/Driver_Win7_7037_01202011.zip'>ftp://WebUser:pGL7E6v@202.134.71.21/cn/nic/Driver_Win7_7037_01202011.zip While i can extract all other things from the website and put them to the URL the date between what's shown on webpage and the date on filename are different.There is no way to foresee this. I was able to access FTP directory itself ( ftp://WebUser:pGL7E6v@202.134.71.21/cn/nic/ ) but im unsure how reliable this address really is seeing as it logs in with some public key that could change or expire.It also uses javascript to redirect to FTP after pressing the GO button and henche no way to create a variable to go to this page. There is even no way to properly sort the FTP directory as appending for example ?C=N;O=D to the address results in the site asking for user and pass again. Damn Realtek.Tho Marvell is not much better.They seem to have a better server but the download page is enterely created in flash and the download comes from a secured ftp that only registered companies and partners can access. Samsung's page is also bunch of javascript. What is it with driver makers anyway?.It is so damn difficult to obtain their drivers.Horrible webpages crawling under heavy flash or javascript.Slow servers.Cryptic secure ftp-s.If i would not know better i would think were talking about pirate scene who are extremely secretive.

Yeah what is it with winrar anyway?.The only way to make sure you get a new version when it's actually new is to use variable for change check.With regular size check the damn thing downloads every day.

Appending to shawn-s post.When using OS newer than XP (Meaning Vista & 7) the reg header should be: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

Log says nothing unfortunately.It seems to start the update.Then it runs the global post download commands and says it's finished with the update.The downloads are defenetly there(Chromium and Firefox Nightly) and are newer than local copy.Anyway this is the log output: 31.01.2011 7:12:57: Update started with 2 application(s) 31.01.2011 7:12:57: Executing command: ketarin /export="Ketarin Database.xml" 31.01.2011 7:12:57: Executing command: sc config trustedinstaller start= demand 31.01.2011 7:12:57: Executing command: sc stop trustedinstaller 31.01.2011 7:12:57: Executing command: sc config msiserver start= demand 31.01.2011 7:12:57: Executing command: sc stop msiserver 31.01.2011 7:12:57: Executing command: reg import "D:\Resources\CMD\Delete StartUp Items.reg" 31.01.2011 7:13:01: Command result: Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601] Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. D:\Resources\Apps x86\Portable x86\Ketarin>ketarin /export="Ketarin Database.xml" D:\Resources\Apps x86\Portable x86\Ketarin>sc config trustedinstaller start= demand [sC] ChangeServiceConfig SUCCESS D:\Resources\Apps x86\Portable x86\Ketarin>sc stop trustedinstaller [sC] ControlService FAILED 1062: The service has not been started. D:\Resources\Apps x86\Portable x86\Ketarin>sc config msiserver start= demand [sC] ChangeServiceConfig SUCCESS D:\Resources\Apps x86\Portable x86\Ketarin>sc stop msiserver [sC] ControlService FAILED 1062: The service has not been started. D:\Resources\Apps x86\Portable x86\Ketarin>reg import "D:\Resources\CMD\Delete StartUp Items.reg" The operation completed successfully. D:\Resources\Apps x86\Portable x86\Ketarin> 31.01.2011 7:13:01: Update finished

Yep i think i requested this at some point and floele added list view instead of icons view to there.Not perfect but atleast something.Will watch how this goes...

Perhaps: /install=FILENAME?

UAC off?

Force Download multiple disabled apps.Is this working for others? When i try to run it Ketarin thinks a few seconds and then quits.The icons remain same(meaning no green checkmark).

Worked.Thanks alot man

Last few days i've been getting the following error with all the apps that use this template as base.Has MS changed it's website or what gives? DirectX Official Invalid URI: The format of the URI could not be determined. (/downloads/info.aspx?na=41&SrcFamilyId=3B170B25-ABAB-4BC3-AE91-50CEB6D8FA8D&SrcDisplayLang=en&u=http%3a%2f%2fdownload.microsoft.com%2fdownload%2f8%2f4%2fA%2f84A35BF1-DAFE-4AE8-82AF-AD2AE20B6B14%2fdirectx_Jun2010_redist.exe)

Nope.I checked.

Seems like very rare occurance.So nothing we can do?.Maybe i should contact website owner so he could fix this?

I have been unable to reproduce this anyway.Could be some random error. I just noticed something else bad.I didn't initally notice it because i check log only if there's a visible error/problem so i was suprised to see that editing and clicking ok on pretty much any app results in the following error message in log: 24.01.2011 9:29:32: Could not submit 'App Name' to the online database: Unhandled XML_RPC2_Exception exception:Invalid author GUID.#0 [internal function]: KetarinRpc::SaveApplication('<?xml version="...', '{bc91716f-055c-...') #1 /usr/share/php5/PEAR/XML/RPC2/Server/CallHandler/Class.php(143): call_user_func_array(Array, Array) #2 [internal function]: XML_RPC2_Server_Callhandler_Class->__call('ketarin.SaveApp...', Array) #3 [internal function]: XML_RPC2_Server_Callhandler_Class->ketarin.SaveApplication('<?xml version="...', '{bc91716f-055c-...') #4 /usr/share/php5/PEAR/XML/RPC2/Backend/Php/Server.php(132): call_user_func_array(Array, Array) #5 /usr/share/php5/PEAR/XML/RPC2/Backend/Php/Server.php(94): XML_RPC2_Backend_Php_Server->getResponse() #6 /srv/www/vhosts/canneverbe.com/subdomains/ketarin/htdocs/rpc.php(364): XML_RPC2_Backend_Php_Server->handleCall() #7 {main}

Just had a crash.Problably .NET 2 related and possibly some .NET bug but reporting anyway: - <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event"> - <System> <Provider Name="Windows Error Reporting" /> <EventID Qualifiers="0">1001</EventID> <Level>4</Level> <Task>0</Task> <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords> <TimeCreated SystemTime="2011-01-22T14:52:25.000000000Z" /> <EventRecordID>11440</EventRecordID> <Channel>Application</Channel> <Computer></Computer> <Security /> </System> - <EventData> <Data /> <Data>0</Data> <Data>CLR20r3</Data> <Data>Not available</Data> <Data>0</Data> <Data>ketarin.exe</Data> <Data>1.6.0.400</Data> <Data>4d33499c</Data> <Data>Ketarin</Data> <Data>1.6.0.400</Data> <Data>4d33499c</Data> <Data>ad4</Data> <Data>196</Data> <Data>System.NullReferenceException</Data> <Data /> <Data>C:\Users\\AppData\Local\Temp\WER239E.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml C:\Users\\AppData\Local\Temp\WER9005.tmp.hdmp C:\Users\\AppData\Local\Temp\WERA60E.tmp.mdmp</Data> <Data>C:\Users\\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportQueue\AppCrash_ketarin.exe_5efdcedfdbb97434472470c9eb5ea4cdbe5f86_cab_02d5a6f7</Data> <Data /> <Data>0</Data> <Data>24de3ffc-2637-11e0-8040-0015f2c80684</Data> <Data>5</Data> </EventData> </Event>

Has anyone seen something like this before in Ketarin?: Defenetly a first for me.If anyone's intrested to test the link is in his page: http://yellow5.us/firefox/osb/

Assuming you don't change the app name or GUID(manual only) then all changes you make to an app are always submitted to the online database after you click OK in the edit dialog. Likewise if you download an app from the online database then it continues to recieve updates from it's creator.Im not sure how creator and users are differenciated tho.Perhaps floele can answer that. Either way hope this helps. Also i made a guide a while back on how to unhook an imported app from it's online database "parent": http://ketarin.canneverbe.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=604

Some odd thing i can't seem to figure out. Every other day the same file gets downloaded again.When i check the log Ketarin says file size has changed and update is required.Tho im pretty sure it has not and no newer version has been released nor has the version number changed.Extremely odd.I even used the version number as indicator for changes but that did not help either.The dowload url is http://www.rarlab.com/rar/winrar-x64-40b4.exe Anyone has any ideas/suggestions why this happens? Ok i set the raw string - 40b4 as indicator for changes.Lets see if this eliminates the problem.

For a while now i've been using a simple yet reliable method of making SF apps the easy way.Now it's about time i share how exactly i do it.Before i start i will point out the good and bad things of my approach compared to other SF methods already posted here. + No need for User Agent.All downloads work without it. + No need to know regex. + Faster then other methods. + Ability to choose specific mirror geographically closest to you. + Making an new app is fast. - Potetially less reliable since single predefined mirror is used. - Potetially less reliable if regex is not used(this is users choiche tho). - Could break if the specific mirror goes offline or webpage content changes so much that start/end variables no longer work. - Sometimes the version number can't be captured correctly with start/end. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 1.Find the app and specific package(some apps have beta,x86 and other versions separately): For this tutorial i specificly choosed an app i have not used before - Filezilla Filezilla seems to have 3 packages: Unstable,Client and Server.Say that i want the Client package in EXE format for Win32.First i always open the /files subpage of the specific app.So now i choose the latest package which seems to be FileZilla_3.3.5.1_win32-setup.exe .I initiate download via browser(I use Firefox). 2.Identify URL of the download: Now that i have downloaded the package i select Copy Download Link from Firefox download manages.All modern browsers should support similar functionality.So the download seems to have come from http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/project/filezilla/FileZilla_Client/3.3.5.1/FileZilla_3.3.5.1_win32-setup.exe 3.Capture the version number: Seems that the download link is very simple and only parts that need to be replaced by variable are the version numbers. Now i could capture the version number from the official page i just downloaded the package but the page takes time to load.What i will do instead is capture the version number from the mirror download directory.As it's text only it loads very fast and it's more reliable in terms of start/end variables not breaking than the official page. There are a few mirrors i always tend to use but generally Netcologne is the best as it's one of the biggest(meaning it should have majority of the files available) and it offers good speeds to European users.If you live elsewhere and want to try mirror that's closer to you you can see them in here: SF Mirror List .The name you want is the short name in the second column.So in my case http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/project/filezilla/FileZilla_Client/ becomes http://netcologne.dl.sourceforge.net/project/filezilla/FileZilla_Client/ This is also the url i will extract the version number from.Notice that you need: http://<mirror short name>.dl.sourceforge.net/project/<project name>/<project package subfolder>/ Capturing the correct version generally requires to sort the directory by package names.This is always not starightforward as the newest package is not always placed at the top.Also this sorting places ?C=N;O=D at the end of the URl so it looks like this: http://netcologne.dl.sourceforge.net/project/filezilla/FileZilla_Client/?C=N;O=D Now i capture the version.As you can see from the picture and as i mentioned at the start of this tutorial you can't always capture the newest version correctly(i can capture 3.3.5.1 yes but it will break when update comes because part of the start variable captures 3.3.5 package date and since this changes with next release the....well you understand).In this case i would need 3.3.5.1 but no sorting method can put this at the top or bottom.As an example i capture 3.3.5 then: 4.Download URL in Ketarin: Now i enter http://netcologne.dl.sourceforge.net/project/filezilla/FileZilla_Client/{version}/FileZilla_{version}_win32-setup.exe as the download URL.Assuming you didn't have problems capturing the latest version number you should now have a working and fast app from SF

Currently only 11 of my 160 apps require an UA.By this i mean they absolutely require it to function.

Yeah i can see them but it's not as straightforward to make a custom column that actually works tho.I mean do i use {property:x} or do i use {file:x} or something else? Atleast for the setup column commands i tried: {property:SetupInstructions} {property:SetupInstruction} {property:WaitForExit} {property:Parameters} {property:Code} ...And nothing

Well just tested and atleast the commands that run after all apps have been updated seem to be exported/imported.I have not tested commands that run before or after app updates tho.

Also i've noticed that app install lists are not backed up either by settings or database export.And also Snippets are not exported.So to sum it up: Global Pre/Post Commands Global Variables Custom App Install Lists Snippets ...Would be nice if these were exportable/importable