Omniferum Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Does ANYONE know why when you give Ketarin even a direct link to download firefoxportable or thunderbirdportable from sourceforge it always gives a corrupt exe? A junk download that is usually a smaller file than the one I actually request. When I copy and paste the same link into firefox/I.E./Chrome that I do into ketarin it comes up with a download dialog instantly. All my other sourceforge downloads are working fine with the HTTP referer of http://sourceforge.net Does it have anything to do with the comma in these? That is the only difference I can see as opposed to all my other sourceforge downloads. I've tried fiddling with the values which come up as %2C but no real luck. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Please show us your XML file. Click on the app in the Ketarin list, File, Export Selected, type a name, Save. Open that up in Notepad or equivalent, then copy & paste it into a reply, using "code" blocks around the text [ code ] and [ /code ]. (take the spaces out) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniferum Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Eh, XML if you so wish. I don't think there is anything wrong with it though as i'm doing the same for this as I am for all other sourceforge. Ah, the only REAL change I had to make for sourceforge was up the connection timeout, but that is more to do with my local mirrors and net connection than ketarin i'm sure. If you just whack the direct link into the URL and the referer for spoof it works for all other sourceforge, just not this. The link for reference sake is http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/portableapps/Mozilla Firefox, Portable Ed./Mozilla Firefox, Portable Edition 3.6.8/FirefoxPortable_3.6.8_English.paf.exe The referer is obviously http://sourceforge.net XML <?xml version='1.0' encoding='utf-8'?> <Jobs> <ApplicationJob xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" Guid="70abab7a-f09f-41db-a5df-a1e8f4c33940"> <WebsiteUrl /> <UserNotes /> <LastFileSize>0</LastFileSize> <LastFileDate xsi:nil="true" /> <IgnoreFileInformation>false</IgnoreFileInformation> <DownloadBeta>Default</DownloadBeta> <DownloadDate xsi:nil="true" /> <CheckForUpdatesOnly>false</CheckForUpdatesOnly> <VariableChangeIndicator /> <CanBeShared>true</CanBeShared> <ShareApplication>false</ShareApplication> <ExclusiveDownload>false</ExclusiveDownload> <HttpReferer>http://sourceforge.net</HttpReferer> <Variables /> <ExecuteCommand /> <ExecutePreCommand /> <Category /> <SourceType>FixedUrl</SourceType> <PreviousLocation /> <DeletePreviousFile>true</DeletePreviousFile> <Enabled>true</Enabled> <FileHippoId /> <LastUpdated xsi:nil="true" /> <TargetPath>\</TargetPath> <FixedDownloadUrl>http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/portableapps/Mozilla Firefox, Portable Ed./Mozilla Firefox, Portable Edition 3.6.8/FirefoxPortable_3.6.8_English.paf.exe</FixedDownloadUrl> <Name>btvrde</Name> </ApplicationJob> </Jobs> It just downloads to the root folder, for this specific file it just gives me a 6.56mb junk file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniferum Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Well Ketarin says it is downloading 6.56mb, but the end result is 4.45mb file. Which makes even less sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 I have no clue what's wrong with that. The deep URLs are causing it to choke simply browsing the PortableApps project on SF. My guess, based on waiting for it to download just in the browser, is that what you're seeing is NOT the actual app (or any portion of it), but the contents of the SF files list. Try opening it up in Notepad or something and you'll probably see that it's very much NOT an executable. Good luck! Maybe there's another mirror somewhere that hosts the files without the SF issues - like FileHippo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniferum Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Yeah, I already have an alternative download source. I'm just a bit of a stickler for purity so would prefer the main download page obviously, as we would all. Filehippo doesn't host it sadly enough, which is strange as this is a fairly popular program in general. Oh, thanks again shawn for the regex. Made me a happy little pumpkin indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 I have seen this before and i believe this application problem, has well has Thunderbird and others from Portable Apps, was already reported although a workaroung was never found. I remember a discussion related to the url encoding... what i can say is that i am currently unable to download this file with Ketarin using any of the available direct dl link mirrors, all i get are timeouts. Generally speaking and unless you are a very xperienced Ketarin user i would avoid SF downloads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CybTekSol Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 I researched this many months ago and if my memory serves me correctly, it has to do with Ketarin's inability to handle the server-side method of the file delivery for these particular apps. I think we have discussed this before and I believe we used a Firefox extension called 'HTTPFox' to track it down. UPDATE: I'm wondering if Ketarin is able to parse %2C that exists in the download URL that my template captures... %2C = , which I have NOT encounterd in any other app's download URL that I can recall. Is it possible that this is causing the download to 'time-out' in Ketarin Flo? Otherwise... it is probably the 'Set Cookie' that I see in my 'HTTPFox' 'response-header' capture in Firefox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 I was thinking the same thing, CybTekSol. Perhaps Ketarin is pre-processing URLs for "sanity", and is choking on those URLs because of the "./" in the path before the filename. While it's obviously a pretty screwy URL, it is, as whacky as it looks, a legitimate address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CybTekSol Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Yeah... I look forward to a time when Flo has the time to 'pin it down'. As much as I dislike SourceForge, there are some apps that are NOT available anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floele Posted September 11, 2010 Report Share Posted September 11, 2010 This download does not actually work for me. I always get a timeout. I believe that sf.net has some additional protections in place, though I don't know which ones currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn Posted September 11, 2010 Report Share Posted September 11, 2010 If you try to open just the SF files list for this project it takes a LONG time, even on very fast broadband. It's not something with Ketarin, it's something with SF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniferum Posted September 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 If you bump up the timeout to 60 seconds in the connection tab of ketarin settings (which I had to for all sourceforge) the download will initiate eventually. I've found that if you replace the link I gave above with a specific mirror, i.e. http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/portableapps/Mozilla Firefox, Portable Ed./Mozilla Firefox, Portable Edition 3.6.8/FirefoxPortable_3.6.8_English.paf.exe and turn it into http://jaist.dl.sourceforge.net/project/portableapps/Mozilla Firefox, Portable Ed./Mozilla Firefox, Portable Edition 3.6.8/FirefoxPortable_3.6.8_English.paf.exe You get differing results, because my specified mirror of transact.dl just craps out entirely. So problem for you may just be timeout or mirrors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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