Template extensions

[floele]

Since you recently had to battle some HTML changes: Would it help if you had a feature that allowed you to only change an application template and by that changing all applications which have been created from it?

[FranciscoR]

Idea seems fine, but how do you plan to do that ? Most of my applications created from templates has dynamic content, will that be preserved ?

[floele]

Dynamic content?

[FranciscoR]

It's rather personalized or customized content. For instance, for jobs created w/ my Softpedia template, regexes are often different. Or w/Sourceforge template, each regex for each job uses a different prefix or sufix. Or Ghisler, no textual content tab 'content' is alike and I have a lot of variations on target path. Usually I insert all this customization when placeholder pops-up.

 

I'm interested to keep customization, hence the question, will that be preserved ? If not, I'd rather use XML edit.

[FranciscoR]

Example: 2 jobs using the same Sourceforge template

 

 

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-16"?>

<Jobs>

<ApplicationJob xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" Guid="a5b8ac20-e7ce-4ba8-947e-1e18d36a8f1e">

<DownloadBeta>Default</DownloadBeta>

<DownloadDate xsi:nil="true" />

<CheckForUpdatesOnly>false</CheckForUpdatesOnly>

<VariableChangeIndicator />

<CanBeShared>true</CanBeShared>

<ShareApplication>false</ShareApplication>

<ExclusiveDownload>false</ExclusiveDownload>

<HttpReferer />

<Variables>

<item>

<key>

<string>version</string>

</key>

<value>

<UrlVariable>

<RegexRightToLeft>false</RegexRightToLeft>

<VariableType>RegularExpression</VariableType>

<Regex>ch32_(?\d+[\.\d+]+.*?)(?:_Final\.zip))(?=")</Regex>

<Url>http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=235157&package_id=285539&release_id=657842</Url>

<Name>version</Name>

</UrlVariable>

</value>

</item>

<item>

<key>

<string>mirror</string>

</key>

<value>

<UrlVariable>

<RegexRightToLeft>false</RegexRightToLeft>

<VariableType>RegularExpression</VariableType>

<Regex>(?<=ch32_.*?"init_download\('http://downloads.sourceforge.net/)([^\s]+(?:_Final\.zip)[^\s]*)'\)</Regex>

<Url>http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=235157&package_id=285539&release_id=657842</Url>

<Name>mirror</Name>

</UrlVariable>

</value>

</item>

</Variables>

<ExecuteCommand />

<ExecutePreCommand />

<Category>Backup</Category>

<SourceType>FixedUrl</SourceType>

<PreviousLocation>D:\Programas\Backup\Copyhandler_1.31.zip</PreviousLocation>

<DeletePreviousFile>true</DeletePreviousFile>

<Enabled>true</Enabled>

<FileHippoId />

<LastUpdated>2009-04-08T18:24:00.4272844</LastUpdated>

<TargetPath>{target}\{category}\{appname}_{version}.{url:ext}</TargetPath>

<FixedDownloadUrl>http://downloads.sourceforge.net/{mirror}</FixedDownloadUrl>

<Name>Copyhandler</Name>

</ApplicationJob>

 

 

<ApplicationJob xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" Guid="c8e436e1-6490-45b7-9c5a-a6a59560f22f">

<DownloadBeta>Default</DownloadBeta>

<DownloadDate xsi:nil="true" />

<CheckForUpdatesOnly>false</CheckForUpdatesOnly>

<VariableChangeIndicator />

<CanBeShared>true</CanBeShared>

<ShareApplication>false</ShareApplication>

<ExclusiveDownload>false</ExclusiveDownload>

<HttpReferer />

<Variables>

<item>

<key>

<string>version</string>

</key>

<value>

<UrlVariable>

<RegexRightToLeft>false</RegexRightToLeft>

<VariableType>RegularExpression</VariableType>

<Regex>npp\.(?\d+[\.\d+]+)(?:\.bin\.7z))(?=")</Regex>

<Url>http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=95717&package_id=102072&release_id=671651</Url>

<Name>version</Name>

</UrlVariable>

</value>

</item>

<item>

<key>

<string>mirror</string>

</key>

<value>

<UrlVariable>

<RegexRightToLeft>false</RegexRightToLeft>

<VariableType>RegularExpression</VariableType>

<Regex>(?<=npp\..*?"init_download\('http://downloads.sourceforge.net/)([^\s]+(?:\.bin\.7z)[^\s]*)'\)</Regex>

<Url>http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=95717&package_id=102072&release_id=671651</Url>

<Name>mirror</Name>

</UrlVariable>

</value>

</item>

</Variables>

<ExecuteCommand />

<ExecutePreCommand />

<Category>Office</Category>

<SourceType>FixedUrl</SourceType>

<PreviousLocation>D:\Programas\Office\Notepad\npp.5.3.1.bin.7z</PreviousLocation>

<DeletePreviousFile>true</DeletePreviousFile>

<Enabled>true</Enabled>

<FileHippoId />

<LastUpdated>2009-04-08T00:15:43.7932884</LastUpdated>

<TargetPath>{target}\{category}\Notepad\</TargetPath>

<FixedDownloadUrl>http://downloads.sourceforge.net/{mirror}</FixedDownloadUrl>

<Name>Notepad++</Name>

</ApplicationJob>

</Jobs>

Edited April 12, 2009 by FranciscoR

[CybTekSol]

Flo,

A significant percentage of my app entries have been modified due to site variations and/or changes from their original template import state so this may be difficult to accomplish, but I'm certainly open to the attempt to achieve it. If there was any such thing as a 'perfect template', this would be much easier IMHO. If you're up to it I'm willing to help tweak such a feature (except during my upcoming vacation time) and I'm sure FranciscoR is up to the task!

[floele]

Well, if you modify your applications from templates beyond applciation name, options etc. it won't work.

[FranciscoR]

Flo, got another idea (simple): user would add search keywords to application templates/ selected jobs.

 

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Example (using 15 Sourceforge jobs created by templates):

 

1. Assign keyword 'SF' to each job;

2. Perform search 'SF .+';

3. Ketarin selects all my 15 Sourceforge jobs.

 

4. Perform search 'SF note.+';

5. Ketarin selects Sourceforge jobs beggining with 'note' (like Notepad++ (portable), Notepad++ (installer), etc.)

 

Easy way to export XML!

 

6. Assign keyword 'SF' to each job AND keyword 'CIV' (cross-reference keyword for jobs with CIV);

7. Perform search 'SF,CIV .+';

8. Ketarin selects only 7 Sourceforge jobs with CIV.

 

9. Assign keyword 'CIV' (cross-reference keyword) also to several Majorgeeks jobs;

10. Perform search 'CIV .+';

11. Ketarin selects 7 Sourceforge jobs AND 10 Majorgeeks jobs with CIV keywords.

 

Like it ? =)

Edited April 13, 2009 by FranciscoR

[floele]

I'll consider that whenever I get to implement a search feature.

[FranciscoR]

Nice, that would handle ALL my template management needs.

Edited April 13, 2009 by FranciscoR

[andreone]

Hi,

What about a multi-edit feature, that would open the standard edit dialog but applies changes on all selected entries?

It would be handy to quickly updated several apps without relying on whether the apps have been created by a template or not (or when they don't share a template at all).

[floele]

Not easy to do. There's a huge number of implications.