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Well... It definitely won't work without, as the folder is most likely not empty. RD (without /s) only acts on empty folders...

Sounds nice. Don (XYplorer) just added a sub-forum "Wishes". That might do, too... But do as you prefer.

Awesome, thanks.

Where do I check my database GUID to be inserted into my profile page? Did already post some entries to the online db and might add some more. Would be nice to be able to link those to me.

Ok, that's strange... Starting this morning both XYplorer applications (my own as well as the one necrox added to the online db) started working again. I didn't change anything so there had to be something funny with the website... Ok, just lately I guess I figured out what my problem really might have been. Obviously I've been subject to the strange windows behavior where windows randomly tries to access proxy settings for LAN connections where no proxys are installed resulting in failures to the internet connection in some browsers while others might work flawlessly. It seems the Ketarin Connection was subject to this failure, too, so it sometimes would not be able to connect to the internet. Since I changed the setting in windows, I haven't had any problems anymore.

Ok, I have to admit I didn't think of something as easy as example.com/robots.txt. Guess I should take note of that... Basically I tried to use something like xxx as url and that failed entirely.

Your app "XYplorer (Portable ZIP)" uses HTTP Referrer: {sf} and User Agent {mozilla}. I don't know the values for those variables.

Ok, I guess I need to take back my statement. The timeout occurs when trying to evaluate the Version variable as Ketarin has problems fetching the download page (at least for me) (Link) EDIT 2: Anyways: For using external downloaders Ketarins behaviour options are quite problematic, as any context menu options either force download (or at least check) of the download url or ignore the pre-download commands. So I either need a 'valid' download url (which I usually don't have) or the external downloader isn't called (pre-download commands are ignored). These aren't the best options... Same issue. Can't evaluate the variable "version" as the download.php fails to load. EDIT: Ok, so actually fetching any link on xyplorer.com seems to fail on me. At least from within Ketarin. No idea why, as I don't have any problems using my browser(s) or any other tool. XYplorer (portable) (NOT WORKING ANYMORE) Timeout für Vorgang überschritten (http://xyplorer.com/download/xyplorer_full_noinstall.zip) No idea actually if my problems with your application are linked to the fact that I don't have the variables "sf" or "mozilla" set... Since they are "global" variables set in your Ketarin instance I don't know the values of those.

Well... Actually this isn't a problem anymore. I switched to using WGet as external downloader... Not having any problems downloading these files now. Threre are still some things I wouldn't mind floele taking a look at about using external downloaders in Ketarin right now... But I don't see any reasons to repeat it in another thread (Link)...

I recently start getting problems with Ketarins internal downloader. Two more applications died on me this week. XYplorer seemed to change something the way they hand out their files (download url changed), now Ketarin times out on trying to get the file... though WGet or directly entering the very same url into a browser works just fine... Can anybody explain to me, why Ketarin still TRIES to download the file? Check for updates, don't download: YES Ignore file information if file missing: YES Use variable for update check: YES So basically, Ketarin is supposed to only check it's variables, display the results and do nothing... Why is Ketarin ignoring the variables, any settings and still trying (and failing) do download the file? <?xml version='1.0' encoding='utf-8'?> <Jobs> <ApplicationJob xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" Guid="84f3ec04-7bcd-4ba8-83e9-f3e795ebf6a2"> <WebsiteUrl /> <UserAgent>Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/42.0.2311.90 Safari/537.36</UserAgent> <UserNotes /> <LastFileSize>4069801</LastFileSize> <LastFileDate>2015-04-20T23:29:52.2875701</LastFileDate> <IgnoreFileInformation>true</IgnoreFileInformation> <DownloadBeta>Default</DownloadBeta> <DownloadDate xsi:nil="true" /> <CheckForUpdatesOnly>true</CheckForUpdatesOnly> <VariableChangeIndicator>Version</VariableChangeIndicator> <CanBeShared>true</CanBeShared> <ShareApplication>true</ShareApplication> <ExclusiveDownload>false</ExclusiveDownload> <HttpReferer>http://xyplorer.com/download.php</HttpReferer> <SetupInstructions> <SetupInstruction xsi:type="CloseProcessInstruction"> <ProcessName>XYplorer</ProcessName> </SetupInstruction> <SetupInstruction xsi:type="CustomSetupInstruction"> <Code>{7z} x "{file}" "-o\XYplorer" -aoa </Code> <Type>Batch</Type> </SetupInstruction> <SetupInstruction xsi:type="StartProcessInstruction"> <EnvironmentVariables /> <FileName>\XYplorer\XYplorer.exe</FileName> <Parameters /> <WaitForExit>false</WaitForExit> </SetupInstruction> </SetupInstructions> <Variables> <item> <key> <string>Version</string> </key> <value> <UrlVariable> <RegexRightToLeft>false</RegexRightToLeft> <VariableType>RegularExpression</VariableType> <Regex>\<b\>XYplorer (\d+\.\d\d\.\d\d\d\d)\</b\></Regex> <Url>http://xyplorer.com/download.php</Url> <Name>Version</Name> </UrlVariable> </value> </item> </Variables> <ExecuteCommand /> <ExecutePreCommand /> <ExecuteCommandType>Batch</ExecuteCommandType> <ExecutePreCommandType>Batch</ExecutePreCommandType> <Category>Tools</Category> <SourceType>FixedUrl</SourceType> <PreviousLocation>\Downloads\XYplorer\XYplorer 15.00.0500.zip</PreviousLocation> <DeletePreviousFile>false</DeletePreviousFile> <Enabled>false</Enabled> <FileHippoId /> <LastUpdated>2015-04-20T23:29:52.2875701</LastUpdated> <TargetPath>\Downloads\XYplorer\XYplorer {Version}.zip</TargetPath> <FixedDownloadUrl>http://xyplorer.com/download/xyplorer_full_noinstall.zip</FixedDownloadUrl> <Name>XYplorer (portable) (NOT WORKING ANYMORE)</Name> </ApplicationJob> </Jobs> I'd definitely would want a more direct support for external downloaders... Like disabling the internal downloader and having a command section just for external download commands. (( Example: A new settings tab in the application, a checkbox to switch between internal and external downloader... If set to external downloader, the commands for the external downloader are processed instead of the internal downloader. Text boxes to specify when Ketarin should assume a succeeded download and when to assume a failed one. (Compare error code of downloader (i.e. WGet)) ))

The files always differ (personal license info is patched into the files on the fly, so hashes change every time (based on Jan Goyvaerts himself)) if I uncheck "ignore file information" and Ketarin constantly tries to download the files again and again. Seems like my WGet got spoiled somehow... Reimported the command line from WinWGet. Now it works as long as I keep "ignore file information" checked. I need to "force download" the files once, but probably because Ketarin didn't have any means to check if the version changed or not and assumes I already have a current version... Anyways, "force download" works. Still, the only strange thing (at least to me) is, why do I need a valid download uri? That was giving me headaches... Pointed the uri to a demo of one of their tools (not all tools have shareware versions) but as long as I have a valid uri WGet runs and is able to download the files. And exit 3 works fine to opt out before Ketarin tries to download the demo version. Well, the above code is the working code I used for "EditPad Pro", one of said tools. As mentioned above I don't mind if anyone uses it for their own benefit. The variables "Version", "POST" and "POSTurl" need to be changed if you want to use it for the different tools, but should be easy to change now. I might change "Version" to a RegEx based system so only the url needs to be corrected to be working with the different tools. Guess I might try to create a parameter-based template from it.. But probably not in the next couple of days...

To be honest I'm using the PortableApps Suite for all the Apps I got from there. Don't see too much need for using Ketarin to do the update checking and downloading when there are so many apps and tools that don't have a portable Software Suite to keep all the files updated. Ketarin is checking on enough Apps and Tools as is for me, no need to have two programs checking on the same files. Well... Regarding SF... I personally would try to avoid SF at all costs. SF has (more or less) recently started inject adware and malware installing installers to a bunch of SF projects... A lot of these projects have (supposedly) been abandoned by their owners on SF because of ads and spam on the site and relocated to different servers. If SF would actually just mirror the original files (as they claim to do) I would be ok with it... But again they inject their adware and malware infested installers to these files. If you want anything hosted on SF you're better off trying to find the "original" servers where these projects are hosted without SFs installer... Saving you about 70 MB (value taken by comparing GIMP on SF (91 MB) and GIMP.org (19 MB)). I'm definitely going to avoid SF and recommend avoiding it to anyone I know.

Ok, for anyone who wants to check it out: <?xml version='1.0' encoding='utf-8'?> <Jobs> <ApplicationJob xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" Guid="ffc3edf6-0f51-41c6-861f-21e7588bfbab"> <WebsiteUrl /> <UserAgent /> <UserNotes /> <LastFileSize>6585968</LastFileSize> <LastFileDate>2014-10-02T06:20:33+02:00</LastFileDate> <IgnoreFileInformation>true</IgnoreFileInformation> <DownloadBeta>Default</DownloadBeta> <DownloadDate xsi:nil="true" /> <CheckForUpdatesOnly>false</CheckForUpdatesOnly> <VariableChangeIndicator>Version</VariableChangeIndicator> <CanBeShared>true</CanBeShared> <ShareApplication>false</ShareApplication> <ExclusiveDownload>false</ExclusiveDownload> <HttpReferer /> <SetupInstructions /> <Variables> <item> <key> <string>Version</string> </key> <value> <UrlVariable> <RegexRightToLeft>false</RegexRightToLeft> <VariableType>StartEnd</VariableType> <Regex /> <Url>http://www.editpadpro.com/download.html</Url> <StartText> Version </StartText> <EndText>, released </EndText> <Name>Version</Name> </UrlVariable> </value> </item> <item> <key> <string>url</string> </key> <value> <UrlVariable> <RegexRightToLeft>false</RegexRightToLeft> <VariableType>RegularExpression</VariableType> <Regex><A HREF="(http://download.jgsoft.com/acetext/SetupAceTextDemo.exe)"></Regex> <Url>http://www.editpadpro.com/download.html</Url> <Name>url</Name> </UrlVariable> </value> </item> <item> <key> <string>POST</string> </key> <value> <UrlVariable> <RegexRightToLeft>false</RegexRightToLeft> <VariableType>Textual</VariableType> <Regex /> <TextualContent>lang=en&app=epp&email=REMOVED&id=REMOVED</TextualContent> <Name>POST</Name> </UrlVariable> </value> </item> <item> <key> <string>POSTurl</string> </key> <value> <UrlVariable> <RegexRightToLeft>false</RegexRightToLeft> <VariableType>Textual</VariableType> <Regex /> <TextualContent>http://www.editpadpro.com/cgi-bin/download</TextualContent> <Name>POSTurl</Name> </UrlVariable> </value> </item> </Variables> <ExecuteCommand /> <ExecutePreCommand>start "" /wait {wget} "{POSTurl}" -P "\Downloads" -c -O "\Installer\JGSoft\Setup {appname} {Version} [NAME REMOVED].exe" --post-data="{POST}" && exit 3 exit 2</ExecutePreCommand> <ExecuteCommandType>Batch</ExecuteCommandType> <ExecutePreCommandType>Batch</ExecutePreCommandType> <Category>JGSoft</Category> <SourceType>FixedUrl</SourceType> <DeletePreviousFile>false</DeletePreviousFile> <Enabled>true</Enabled> <FileHippoId /> <LastUpdated>2015-04-16T17:44:51.7100135+02:00</LastUpdated> <TargetPath>\Installer\JGSoft\{appname} {Version} [NAME REMOVED].exe</TargetPath> <FixedDownloadUrl>http://download.jgsoft.com/acetext/SetupAceTextDemo.exe</FixedDownloadUrl> <Name>EditPad Pro</Name> </ApplicationJob> </Jobs> I removed the license data nessisary for downloading the file but anyone owning JGSoft-Apps can easily modify this code to download their versions of those files.

Ok, can anybody explain, why I have to supply a VALID download uri I don't have to use an external downloader? Using a download uri for an entirely different (but binary) file finally allows me to use WGet to download the file I need. That's kind of nonsense, isn't it? Now I need to figure out what's wrong now with my WGet call... Worked before (from the command line) now it doesn't... Ok... Case closed anyways... For some reason you need a valid download uri to a binary file to use predownload-commands for external downloaders. How about a feature request for a more direct support of external download tools? (Like an additional tab with a similar commands section and a checkbox to enable the external downloader (and disable the internal one - in conjunction with the check if the download uri is a 'valid' one).)

Based on the path your files are located I assume you're using Comodo Internet Security. CIS virtualizes all files it doesn't know to be save. ANYTHING that's not verified by CIS is saved within C:\VTROOT\... There's nothing anyone but you can do to change it. Either you need to whitelist Ketarin in CIS so it's considered safe or you need to disable/uninstall CIS from your Computer.