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It must to be possible, as Ketarin can use the scripts. See http://wiki.vuze.com/w/Console_UI Question is how to combine tools (Vuze and Ketarin). Main page of drivers is all the time updated with simple change of version number (so, it is not the problem). Redirection on download page is also not the problem. It is just how to combine download command with Vuze console. Any idea of senior members? It will be great feature for Ketarin to add torrent file support (despite how I think how it already exist, question is just how to implement scripts).

Is it the way to follow Latest DriverPacks on http://driverpacks.net/driverpacks/latest ?

If groups should to be from 00-99 and items from 00-99 (so, format is 0000-9999).

Can you post example how it should to look?

Yeah, I agree, but it can work just for some fully automated task (e.g. install OS updates), most probably also in silent mode. I'm just wondering, is it really hard (I'm not developer) to implement one column more in main dialog and one field more in Edit dialog??? Four digits, will solve all issue (first two for something like categories order and second two for apps order). P.S. I doubt how anybody work with more apps (to get six digits).

Is it some way to get desired order of apps installation? I tried to start categories with - 01Updates - 02Drivers, etc but without success (child dialog dont care about it, order have some strange logic). Why I ask it? To install some apps, I need to install before (e.g.) Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 SP1 Redistributable Package. So, idea is - if I check some apps, they should to maintain some order as I want (not how Ketarin want). P.S. I'm surprised how Ketarin don't have item ID (I'm not remember any other serious apps without it - and Ketarin is without any doubt serious apps).

ActuallyI did not asked that, but perfect. This will solve the rest of the problem (as I promised, everything will be in the guide). So far, three news: 1) Offline installers is easy and fast to implement (it will come in the guide). 2) I have successfully applied Ketarin also for other purposes (for sort of the PC control, for example). 3) Ketarin can be initiated in several phases of the installation (including the first desktop application appereance), and everything will be in a tutorial.

I guess how now is clear how concept wit multiple job or XML files is not the best solution. Ideal will be option (in Settings) to run Ketarin "silently" wit desired popup dialog version (audit, oobe, final user, full list, etc.) for targeted user (where he will be not able to change anything except to choose what application he want to install via checking boxes).

Yeah, I forgot. Idea is to get disk with 5 partitions (Recovery, System, WindowsOS, Data and Ketarin). Ketarin (letter Z) partition is hidden (to avoid accidental deletion from final user), size enough for offline apps storage. Tools are Windows 7 Toolkit (to make custom OS iso), OEM Recovery Tools (to make recovery option) and Ketarin. Windows 7 ISO contain just language packs, updates and tweaks (here can be added shortcut of Ketarin instance for final user , in Start menu, desktop, etc.). Installation start with sysprep and on Administrator First Logon via Ketarin (administrator can manually trigger it, but this is the first usage of Ketarin, let to call it Audit Ketarin) should be installed (depend on final user) "prerequisites" (e.g. NET Framework, vcredistr, etc.), OEM Recovery Tools and main (giant) applications (MS Office, Adobe suites, CAD suites, etc., depends of final user), triggered manually by administrator (it is some tricks to not be triggered manually, Ketarin also can handle it, but it is not subject now, I will explain it in tutorial). With OEM Recovery Tools, go back in regular OOBE and here is the second usage of Ketarin (lets to call it OOBE Ketarin), triggered with SetupComplete.cmd (OOBE Ketarin should to contain just options for Antivirus or complete security packages). After OOBE and Antivirus (eventually) reboot, come First Logon and automatic (let to call just) Ketarin trigger (of many options, most simple is via Task Scheduler, but I will explain it in tutorial) with all others possible applications for final user needs and taste. Benefits: 1) Fast and simple creation of custom Windows 7 ISO. 2) Fast and simple creation of basic (let to call) audit configuration (it is not same for office users, gamers, etc.) and basic recovery Windows image. P.S. After this stage, practically always can exist just upgrades (and they are basic and low time consuming). 3) Finally, regards to Ketarin, it is possible to have in already basically configured PC, with different final flavors of the OS, depending of the final user needs and it can be always be done "on the fly" (with OEM Recovery Tools reinstall). P.S. So, in this stage is practically point of easy "dynamic" automatic configuration, without saving that in OS or recovery image. NEEDS So, that's why I ask how to get 3 (2 or 4) different Ketarins, but in the same root folder on Ketarin partition, as I want all applications in the same folder (to be easy changeable apps list "on the fly", for any Ketarin instance/usage). So shawn, please post adequate XML example, it will help me a lot.

Sorry, but I don't get it. Can you please post example of XML?

I found several options and soon I will post tutorial (just to make complete check, but for now it works perfect).

That is the solution what I'm looking for, but how it works (rename job.db to job1.db and job2.db, or something else?)? I mean, how same Keterin exe (or it is not same?, different exe names?) can trigger two different job.db files? I don't want any user interaction!

I will find (if Getting Started can do it, any apps can). Just one more question: I have Ketarin ROOT folder and inside Apps folder (i done ".\Apps\{appname:regexreplace:([\s\t\r\n\\&\/]+):_}-{version}.{url:ext}"). I will also place the jobs.db file in the same folder as ketarin.exe. - But, how I can trigger TWICE Ketarin 1) First time after OOBE with SetupComplete.cmd, to list JUST ANTIVIRUS and/or SECURITY apps (so, ANY OTHER APPS) and 2) Second time after First Logon screen, to list all other available apps for final user (additional browsers, etc.)? Yeah, I know the simple solution (two Ketarin folders, in fact, two Ketarin instances - OOBEKetarin and FLKetarin), but is it some other way?

Off course, it is Ketarin exe file (I prefer to get it after First Logon automatically and with visible desktop and not with installation background).

OK, clear, but is it mean how once downloaded exe file is offline portable? e.g. - I can choose option To File and path to USB stick, than it should be portable and offline installable for more PCs, correct? OK (thats bad news), can you work on it, as it will defenatelly incease popularity of Ketarin, as technicals will be able to add it to SetupComplete.cmd for final clients ("geeks") to let them to make the choice of applications to install? I beleive, how separating main (settings) dialog from install dialog will bring you lot of donations (as than you will be asked for install dialog customizations/brandings, also).