Need some help with commands

[Phil]

Hello,

I´m big fan of Ketarin.. meaning I update 80+ apps. Well said that, hope you can give me a hand with two main issues when using commands to extract the applicacions. Note I´m not a coders or anything related, I´m just a simple user who tries to make things work.

 

The first is that 7zipped packages don´t get extracted at all, even the 7Z.exe process hangs out, freezing too Ketarin, till I terminate it. Let me do some explain, I´m using the console version of 7zip, kind of the same config of the "Tech Toolkit 2.0" with the "7z x {file} -o"{root}PortableApps\{appname}\" -y commands after downloading.

I have no idea where the issue comes from, is a bug of 7zip or I´m not using the proper commands, hope you can explain it to me.

 

For example I got this trouble when updating Portable Tor (if you want to give it a try this is a fixed update link for Ketarin: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/portabletor/portabletor/PortableTor-{version}/PortableTor-{version}.exe?use_mirror=ufpr), also with Tor Browser, SMPlayer, etc. all packaged in 7zip format.

 

If it is a 7zip bug I guess the workaround will be a batch file with relative paths (since I use it from my stick), well if that´s the case I would really thanks some help in how the bat command should be.

 

Also what to do when the application comes compressed with a folder that has the app version? Is there a way to rename it when it gets extracted? for two reasons, one my old files don´t get replaced/deleted and two becouse I use a launcher and this might change the main exe app path

 

And OK, the only dude that I got left is if there is an easy way/commands etc, for extracting the {app} data of an installer and copying it files to a folder, while deleting after the extracted files (not the copied ones), since there are many portable application that comes bundled with it´s installer. I don´t really know if the 7zip console can manage it, I did some tests but it seemed to fail.

 

Well that´s are all my headaches :S , hope you can tell me how to fix/make it work

 

 

Cheers and Thanks

 

Phil

 

Edit: All working and solved, see the comments below (Thanks andreone and CybTekSol)

Edited September 19, 2009 by Phil

[CybTekSol]

Welcome to the Ketarin forum Phil. You must pay close attention to your quotes and backslashes in the command line as well as 7-zip switches... try this:

7z x "{file}" -aoa -o"{root}PortableApps\{appname}\" -y

and see if it works for you. Remember 7z.exe must be in your path or the same folder if you do not define it in your Ketarin settings. For example, I use a global variable {run_7-zip} which is defined as "C:\Program Files\Utilities\7-Zip\7z.exe". So for me the above command would be:

{run_7-zip} x "{file}" -aoa -o"{root}PortableApps\{appname}\" -y

Post your results when you get a chance.

 

Also... for the last part, check out Universal Extractor that has been discussed in the forum before... just do a search for it... I think it may do what you want with installers along with some custom commands... possibly...

del /f "{root}PortableApps\{appname}\*"

that is run as a command before update. Be VERY careful with such commands for obvious reasons!

Edited August 31, 2009 by CybTekSol

[Phil]

Thanks for your quick answer.

 

Tried this

 7z x "{file}" -aoa -o"{root}PortableApps\{appname}\" -y 

and I got the same issue

 

and so far I tried also

{root}PortableApps\7-ZipPortable\App\7-Zip\7z.exe x {file} -o"{root}PortableApps\{appname}\" -y

using the portable 7zip, instead of the console in the directory of Ketarin. Anyway both get me the same error. At this point I gues it´s a bug of the 7zip console, since it does extract a part* of the file. Also when I extract with the GUI, it´s all fine.

 

Maybe there is a way of using the GUI in a automated/silently way..?

Or I may just use another command line extraction app :S

 

Also... for the last part, check out Universal Extractor that has been discussed in the forum before... just do a search for it... I think it may do what you want with installers along with some custom commands... possibly...

 

del /f "{root}PortableApps\{appname}\*"

 

I´m going to check it with more time thanks

[andreone]

The first is that 7zipped packages don´t get extracted at all, even the 7Z.exe process hangs out, freezing too Ketarin, till I terminate it. Let me do some explain, I´m using the console version of 7zip, kind of the same config of the "Tech Toolkit 2.0" with the "7z x {file} -o"{root}PortableApps\{appname}\" -y commands after downloading.

I have no idea where the issue comes from, is a bug of 7zip or I´m not using the proper commands, hope you can explain it to me.

There's a bug that happens when the archive contains a lot of files. This generates a lot of message into the console. Too much actually and Ketarin hangs, as well as 7zip.

 

You can check out this thread: http://ketarin.canneverbe.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=268

 

The solution is then to append & to your command line

 7z x "{file}" -aoa -o"{root}PortableApps\{appname}\" -y & 

The bottom side is that the 7z output messages won't appear into Ketarin's console, but that's not a very big deal.

 

Edit:

I just noticed -aoa into your command line. This means nothing for 7z. A typical command line to extract an archive would look like

7z x -y -r -o"{install_root}\{category}\{appname}" "{file}"

However, I tested and it doesn't bother 7z

Edited August 31, 2009 by andreone

[CybTekSol]

The solution is then to append & to your command line...

Sorry Phil... I forgot to mention this one... and it had been an issue for me lately... I had been having intermittent issues with extracting FileZilla lately which has a high file number count and had not appended & to the end of the command-line as an oversight with 1200+ apps... all is well now...

I just noticed -aoa into your command line. This means nothing for 7z.

It was a typo on my behalf andreone... I use -ao which sets the overwrite mode during extraction per 7-zip's help file for command switches...

Edited September 1, 2009 by CybTekSol

[Phil]

Sorry for the delay.

 

The solution is then to append & to your command line

 

Thanks andreone and CybTekSol! That solved it

 

Edit: Still there is one app that freezes! :S kind of weird... all the other works good now.

Here is the log

01/09/2009 18:19:28: Update started with 7 application(s)
01/09/2009 18:19:31: SMPlayer Portable: Replacing {version} in 'http://downloads.sourceforge.net/smplayer/smplayer-portable-{version}.7z' with '0.6.8'
01/09/2009 18:19:31: SMPlayer Portable: Using referer: (none)
01/09/2009 18:19:32: SMPlayer Portable: Server source file: /smplayer/smplayer-portable-0.6.8.7z
01/09/2009 18:19:32: SMPlayer Portable: Determined target file name: C:\PortableApps\Comprimidos\smplayer-portable-0.6.8.7z
01/09/2009 18:19:32: SMPlayer Portable: Checking if update is required...
01/09/2009 18:19:32: SMPlayer Portable: Update required, 'C:\PortableApps\Comprimidos\smplayer-portable-0.6.8.7z' does not yet exist
01/09/2009 18:25:20: SMPlayer Portable: Executing command: 7z x C:\PortableApps\Comprimidos\smplayer-portable-0.6.8.7z -o"C:\PortableApps\" -y &"

 

The other way would be to use start"" as I read in another treath.

 

Also... for the last part, check out Universal Extractor that has been discussed in the forum before... just do a search for it... I think it may do what you want with installers along with some custom commands... possibly...

del /f "{root}PortableApps\{appname}\*"

 

Now I checked it and it works well with Universal Extractor, I´m using

{root}PortableApps\UniversalExtractor\UniversalExtractor.exe {file} PeerBlock &

 

What I´m figuring out now is how to move the files with the time delay/pause... as this post points out

http://ketarin.canneverbe.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=32&p=2

 

Also with more time I may try the commands "copy" and "del" to be able to get the files always in the same folder with 7zip (In 7zip I guess there should be no trouble).

 

I just noticed -aoa into your command line. This means nothing for 7z. A typical command line to extract an archive would look like

 

if my memory it´s ok, I lately read somewhere that 7zip overrides by default the files when extracting and by what CybTekSol said, the -aoa does the same. Anyway one or the other way it works

 

 

Thanks for all the help!

Edited September 1, 2009 by Phil

[andreone]

Edit: Still there is one app that freezes! :S kind of weird... all the other works good now

...

Executing command: 7z x C:\PortableApps\Comprimidos\smplayer-portable-0.6.8.7z -o"C:\PortableApps\" -y &"

wouldn't it be the trailing " at the end of the command line?

 

What I´m figuring out now is how to move the files with the time delay/pause... as this post points out

http://ketarin.canneverbe.com/forum/vie … 32&p=2

You can use this portable trick:

ping -n TIME_TO_WAIT 127.0.0.1>nul

where TIME_TO_WAIT is the number of seconds you want to wait + 1 (e.g. ping -n 2 127.0.0.1>nul waits 1 second)

This is not very elegant, but it works everywhere and doesn't require an additional tool.

 

About dos commands, to forget rmdir /s /q "path" to quickly delete a folder structure.

[Phil]

wouldn't it be the trailing " at the end of the command line?

 

My bad, you are totally right.

 

where TIME_TO_WAIT is the number of seconds you want to wait + 1 (e.g. ping -n 2 127.0.0.1>nul waits 1 second)

This is not very elegant, but it works everywhere and doesn't require an additional tool.

 

Thanks

Edited September 14, 2009 by Phil

[Phil]

OK, I need some guidance here. Maybe it´s just a minimal mistake, anyway..

There are some apps that when they get extracted create it´s own folder, so on I´m trying to copy the files inside that folder and then deleting the files in the original extracted directory. Now the name of the created folder is the "appname+partoftheversion", then is there a way to use a path like \App*\ to complete the folder relative folder name?

For example I´m trying this with one app

7z x {file} -o"{root}PortableApps\{appname}\" -y &
copy "{root}PortableApps\{appname}\DrvBK*\*.*" "{root}PortableApps\{appname}\*.*" &
del /f "{root}PortableApps\{appname}\DrvBK*\*"

The folder that the extracted app creates is "DrvBK2", where the "2" may vary, and the version variable I´m using it´s like "2_0".. different I have actually tried a lot of combinations, tried with the copy /f command, \y at the end. Also I wonder if when the app gets updated the "copied" files will replace the old copied ones or if I need another command for that.

well I´m out of ideas and the info in the forum it´s for kind of advanced people... so hope you can give me a hand on this.

[CybTekSol]

I usually do this manually as out of the nearly 1350 apps that I update with Ketarin for building and configuring PCs and Linux Boxes only a handful of these exhibit that behavior.

 

That said... I have tested this and it works for me... your mileage may vary.

 

{run_7-zip} x "{file}" -r -aoa -o"C:\Temp\Temp" & ping -n 5 localhost > nul & xcopy /s "C:\Temp\Temp\[iNSERT RECURRING SUB-FOLDER NAME HERE with {version} if needed]\*.*" "{root}PortableApps\{appname}\" & ping -n 5 localhost > nul & rd "C:\Temp\Temp" /s /q&

 

Hope this helps...

 

Addendum: If you use /e for the xcopy switch, folders, subfolders and empty folders will be copied... Also... you can use {root}Temp\Temp or another to your liking...

 

Adjust delays as necessary...

 

Also, you can use a similar rd command before an app is updated to get rid of the existing apps extracted folder... i.e.

rd "{root}PortableApps\{appname}" /s /q

 

Use /y switch with xcopy if you wish... I didn't add it for this test and if you use the above rd command before an update, it isn't necessary...

 

BTW... -aoa is a valid 7-Zip switch, it is always overwrite without prompting... use whatever you wish that works for U...

 

At least this should get U goin'

Edited September 14, 2009 by CybTekSol

[Phil]

Thanks! thats really helpful, more than enough to get me goin'

 

I´m going to give it a spin right now... about the part of the version in the name I will simply create another variable and with that It should do the trick.

 

I usually do this manually as out of the nearly 1350 apps

 

That´s a crazy, I thought my 200+ portable apps where more than enough! maybe that´s becouse I don´t have yet many Linux apps besides the LiveCDs/USB....

 

Well once again thanks for all the help, I have learned tons

 

Cheers

 

Phil

[andreone]

I recently discovered that dos redirection can handle nul.

So appending your command line with

> nul

will make it totaly silent.

No more &&, ping or sleep.