JohnSim3

Hi Flo, When running Ketarin on my Win XP SP3 laptop (with all the latest MS updates) I sometimes get this error when Ketarin returns from a minimized state with both main and log windows open: With these details: See the end of this message for details on invoking just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box. ************** Exception Text ************** System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object. at System.Windows.Forms.TextBoxBase.AppendText(String text) at Ketarin.Forms.LogDialog.OnVisibleChanged(EventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmShowWindow(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.ContainerControl.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WmShowWindow(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam) ************** Loaded Assemblies ************** mscorlib Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3615 (GDR.050727-3600) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll ---------------------------------------- Ketarin Assembly Version: 1.1.2.337 Win32 Version: 1.1.2.337 CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Internet%20Tools/Ketarin/Ketarin.exe ---------------------------------------- System.Windows.Forms Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll ---------------------------------------- System Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3614 (GDR.050727-3600) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Drawing Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Xml Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3082 (QFE.050727-3000) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Data Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_32/System.Data/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Data.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Data.SQLite Assembly Version: 1.0.65.0 Win32 Version: 1.0.65.0 CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_32/System.Data.SQLite/1.0.65.0__db937bc2d44ff139/System.Data.SQLite.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Transactions Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_32/System.Transactions/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Transactions.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Design Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Design/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Design.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Web Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3614 (GDR.050727-3600) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_32/System.Web/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Web.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Configuration Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll ---------------------------------------- System.EnterpriseServices Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_32/System.EnterpriseServices/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.EnterpriseServices.dll ---------------------------------------- ************** JIT Debugging ************** To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this application or computer (machine.config) must have the jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section. The application must also be compiled with debugging enabled. For example: <configuration> <system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" /> </configuration> When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer rather than be handled by this dialog box. When clicking the "Continue" button Ketarin will continue as normal. Thanks and regards, Johnny

Hi again, I am indeed still using Windows XP as it perfectly suites my needs and as far as I am concerned is still is the best Windows version around. I will try the recommended applications, but I find it a bit too much to install additional software and have it running in the background all the time just to have 1 feature added to a program I used at most once per day. It was just a request and really no big deal. Thanks and regards, Johnny

Hi Flo, When I run Ketarin, usually there will be a few of my downloads not working properly for which I want to see in real-time what Ketarin is doing, but calling out the log will cover part of the Ketarin main window unless I position the log underneath the main window, but then I have to adjust the size of both windows separately and after closing the log, the main windows size will not resize to fit the whole screen. If the log would be in the main window with just a splitter control between the application list and the log I would need to adjust the size of the main window one time only and would be able to show or hide the log without any need to adjust the main window. I know this is not a big issue or a 'must have'. It's just a request for your kind consideration Thanks and regards, Johnny

Hi Flo, If it would not be too much trouble I would like to see the log added to the main screen (show/hide option) below the application list instead of the floating dialog it is now? The list and log should then be separated by a horizontal splitter control of which the program would then "remember" it's position. Keep up the good work! Thanks and regards, Johnny

Hi Flo, Sorry for the late reply I can no longer find the URL that gave me the 302 error, but I have a similar issue with another URL this time giving me a 200 error. The link I'm referring to would be for a program called "FreePOPS" of which the binary executable is hosted on a sourceforge server. The php URL that redirects from the FreePops website to the file on the sourceforge server would be this link: http://www.freepops.org/download.php?os=win When entering this URL for update checking in Ketaring I get this error message: When entering 1 single space in the "Spoof HTTP referrer" option, Ketarin log shows this message: Hope this helps Thanks and regards, Johnny

Hi Flo, What has been puzzling me for quite some time is a very small issue when checking for updates from for example SourceForge.net. I'm using a global {version} variable which in case of SourceForge.net applications I most commonly populate from a completely different website that uses SourceForge.net as it's version tracking and file hosting service. The {version} variable is the variable I use for the "Variable for custom column" option in Ketarin. By default Ketarin uses the website from which it retrieves the value for the {version} variable as the referrer but when checking the file URL that links to a SourceForge.net server to check the file, a referrer error will occur. I have found a simple way to work around this issue: Just enter a single space as the value for the "Spoof HTTP referrer" option. Linking directly to the SourceForge.net server without any referrer works just fine and adding the single space apparently is enough to 'trick' Ketarin to do just that Just thought I'd share my findings, as it's not really a big issue and the work-around is to say the least doable, but a "Do not use any referrer" option would be great Many thanks and best regards, Johnny

Hi again Flo, Great job!! Starting v0.9.9.14 Ketarin is giving me all I have hoped for (and more), even on my old W2K Box in my Internet-neck-of-the-woods Many thanks and best regards, Johnny

From what I can count, I must be #2 then..?

Hi Flo, The "Help -> About" shows version 0.9.9.12 hence the confusion. Also not sure what is the issue with filehippo.com links, but I noticed something similar in previous versions of Ketarin; Most of the filehippo links would time-out when running Ketarin a second time, without exiting the program first. Could this have anything to do with me being in a neck-of-the-internet-woods country? So my guess is (and this is really just guessing) that 1 of my update-checks now times-out (for what ever reason) so it then 'retries' the check a second time, after which all subsequent filehippo links also start to time out..? Just to share with you: I'm running Ketarin on a Windows 2000 Professional box with MS.NET 2.0 SP1 installed. Many thanks and best regards, Johnny

Hi again Flo, The latest version I just downloaded would be .12..? This version is checking for updates again There still seems to be a problem checking filehippo links, as after a few of filehippo links have been checked, other subsequent filehippo links all time out, making the update check fail. This seems to be only affecting filehippo links, though. Many thanks and best regards, Johnny

Hi Flo, Not sure why, but the latest Ketarin (0.9.9.11) does not seem to work for me at all When starting an update check, it shows a down-pointing arrow at the first 4 applications at the top of the lists (4 threads) and then nothing happens: No progress, no time-out, no check next application, just nothing. Ketarin does not appear to be "hanging" as no CPU is being used and I can still click the Cancel button, but clicking the Cancel button also has no effect. It just seems to be waiting for something. Also the main window can not be closed by clicking the close button. I have also tried just checking just 1 application (I have tried both a filehippo and a custom check) but in both cases the same thing happens. Going back to the 0.9.9.10 version Ketarin updates as normal Thanks and regards, Johnny

Hi Flo, I have not been able to post sooner since I was rather busy myself moving house. There's a couple of things I would like to mention, as Ketarin is getting better and better and becoming one of my most time saving tools Especially the "Share this application online with others" feature is truly awesome now other people start using it as well But the reason I'm posting in the Bug section of this forum is the following: I was just running the latest Ketarin version (0.9.9.10) and as some of my update checking was pending (and about to time out) I got a message from Windows telling me that my system was running low on Virtual Memory. When I checked the Windows Task Manager I noticed that it was Ketarin causing the problem as it was already using more than 500MB of my Virtual Memory!! The programs being checked for updates were FileHippo.com programs and I have Ketarin configured to use 4 threads at 1 time to do the checking. Another thing I noticed is that a few versions back the "Default command to execute after updating an application" has stopped working as none of the updated files are checked for virusses anymore, where it previously did. :| The last thing I can't quite explain is that I have 1 update link checked by Ketarin that will fail with some kind of "redirect error" of some kind, but when I check the same link a second time, then the check works just fine... The link would be for a program called SoftPerfect Network Scanner This actually also gave me an idea for a new setting: Retries If a check fails the user should be able to configure how many times Ketarin should retry the update check or download before considering the check or download as failed. Thanks and best regards, Johnny

Hi again Flo, The "Custom Value" variable is now also working for filehippo links, which is great However would it be possible to make the period for time-out a setting we can play with? I'm kinda living in the neck of the woods of the Internet and my connection to filehippo.com will quite frequently time-out, now even more so when I also try to retrieve the version information for a program from the same download page. Also I accidentally found a way to make Ketarin disappear from the screen (crash): I was creating a new variable but forgot to put a value for "Contents from URL" and also for selection start and end before clicking the OK button. When i now run and update check for the program (with a completely undefined variable) Ketarin will disappear from the screen without error message. Just thought I'd let you know EDIT: The variable I'm creating that leads to the crash is the "Custom Value" variable I have defined in the settings screen, btw... Many thanks and best regards, Johnny

Hi Flo, Great to see that Ketarin now has it's own forum Ketarin it is definitely becoming more and more useful with every new release. I was wondering about the "Variable for custom column" feature as I can not seem to get it to work. So far I have only tried with one of the applications I update from FileHippo.com and I suspect that creating custom variables is not supported for FileHippo.com downloads, because of the use of the "FileHippo ID:" field, rather then the "URL:" field? EDIT: I noticed that indeed the "Variable for custom column" feature only works for none FileHippo.com links Thanks and regards, Johnny